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		| arkietech 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:55 am    Post subject: Vanhegan Fiendish August 21, 2012 |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | *-----------*
 |..9|3.4|7..|
 |..5|.2.|3..|
 |4..|5.6|..9|
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 |...|285|...|
 |5.6|...|2.1|
 |...|641|...|
 |---+---+---|
 |9..|1.7|..3|
 |..2|.3.|1..|
 |..1|8.2|6..|
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		| Clement 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:38 am    Post subject: Vanhagen Fiendish August 21, 2012 |   |  
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				| After the Basics W-Wing 78 in BOX 49 with SL 8 in col 9; r6c8<>7 solves it. 	  | Code: |  	  | +-----------+-------+-------------+
 | 8  6   9  | 3 1 4 | 7  5    2   |
 | 17 17  5  | 9 2 8 | 3  46   46  |
 | 4  2   3  | 5 7 6 | 8  1    9   |
 +-----------+-------+-------------+
 | 13 139 47 | 2 8 5 | 49 3467 467 |
 | 5  48  6  | 7 9 3 | 2  48   1   |
 | 2  39  *78 | 6 4 1 | 59 3-78  58  |
 +-----------+-------+-------------+
 | 9  458 48 | 1 6 7 | 45 2    3   |
 | 6  57  2  | 4 3 9 | 1  *78   58  |
 | 37 347 1  | 8 5 2 | 6  9    47  |
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:55 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A naked quad exist in box 6 of the posted code but does not not impact the w-wing or a 
 BUG-Lite+2(137)r249c12[4r9c2=9r4c2]-(9=3)r6c2-(3=7)r6c8-(7=6=4)r42c9;-4r9c9
 
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		| arkietech 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | tlanglet wrote: |  	  | BUG-Lite+2(137)r249c12[4r9c2=9r4c2]-(9=3)r6c2-(3=7)r6c8-(7=6=4)r42c9;-4r9c9 | 
 
 Beautiful!
   
 I spotted the w-wing and quit.
   
 Sometimes in the mass of the weeds you miss the rose.
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | *--------------------------------------------------* | 8    6    9    | 3    1    4    | 7    5    2    |
 |*17  *17   5    | 9    2    8    | 3    46   46   |
 | 4    2    3    | 5    7    6    | 8    1    9    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 |*13  *13+9 47   | 2    8    5    | 49   367  67   |
 | 5    48   6    | 7    9    3    | 2    48   1    |
 | 2    39   78   | 6    4    1    | 59   37   58   |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 9    458  48   | 1    6    7    | 45   2    3    |
 | 6    57   2    | 4    3    9    | 1    78   58   |
 |*37  *37+4 1    | 8    5    2    | 6    9    7-4  |
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 BUG-Lite+2(137)r249c12[4r9c2=9r4c2]-(9=3)r6c2-(3=7)r6c8-(7=6=4)r42c9;-4r9c9
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		| SudoQ 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:05 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | arkietech wrote: |  	  | I spotted the w-wing and quit.   | 
 What's wrong with that!?
 
 /SudoQ
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:07 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | arkietech wrote: |  	  | Sometimes in the mass of the weeds you miss the rose.
 
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 Amen
   
 I understand that everyone has their own preferences regarding the techniques they like and the order they employ them. Recently I have been initially seeking more unusual solutions, and then consider the VH and VH+ steps if I do not find anything of interest. "Almost" steps such as AUR()s and ANP()s or an "almost" AIC (AAIC?) are my current favorite techniques.
 
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		| arkietech 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | SudoQ wrote: |  	  | What's wrong with that!? | 
 
 Nothing. In fact it is the simplest solution. I just go for new and exotic methods. Roses to me...weeds to others.
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:04 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If anyone saw my earlier post before I deleted it, it contained an error. 
 W-Wing (47), SL 4 in c7; r4c9<>7.
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +-----------+--------+------------+ | 8   6   9  | 3 1 4 | 7   5   2  |
 | 17  17  5  | 9 2 8 | 3   46  46 |
 | 4   2   3  | 5 7 6 | 8   1   9  |
 +-----------+--------+------------+
 | 13 A139 47 | 2 8 5 | 49  367 67 |
 | 5  -48  6  | 7 9 3 | 2  E48  1  |
 | 2  B39  78 | 6 4 1 | 59 C37  58 |
 +-----------+--------+------------+
 | 9   458 48 | 1 6 7 | 45  2   3  |
 | 6   57  2  | 4 3 9 | 1  D78  58 |
 | 37  347 1  | 8 5 2 | 6   9   47 |
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 Just another variation on the 17-13-37. R4c2=9-->r5c8=4 via ABCDE; r5c2<>4
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