| View previous topic :: View next topic   | 
	
	
	
		| Author | 
		Message | 
	
	
		tlanglet
 
 
  Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2468 Location: Northern California Foothills
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:54 am    Post subject: Vanhegan Extreme 06/29/10 | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				I worked on this for some time before finding the key.......
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  +-------+-------+-------+
 
| . 5 3 | 2 . . | . 7 . |
 
| 6 . . | 7 . 4 | . . 5 |
 
| . . . | . 6 . | . . 1 |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
| . 9 . | . 4 . | . 1 2 |
 
| . . 1 | 9 . 2 | 6 . . |
 
| 7 2 . | . 1 . | . 9 . |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
| 8 . . | . 2 . | . . . |
 
| 1 . . | 6 . 3 | . . 8 |
 
| . 6 . | . . 8 | 1 5 . |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
 | 	  
 
Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | ANP(68=4)r46c3 - (4=3)r6c9 - r79c9 = r7c7 - (3=47)r78c2 - (47=8)r3c2; r23c3<>8 | 	  
 
Ted | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		keith
 
 
  Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:02 am    Post subject:  | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				Wow.    
 
 
But, I sort of don't buy it.
 
 
Keith | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		daj95376
 
 
  Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 3854
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject:  | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				Ted: a nice solution to an uncooperative puzzle.
 
 
Note: you can also add r5c2 to your list of elimination cells -- even though it's extraneous in the final analysis. | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		Mogulmeister
 
 
  Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 1151
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject:  | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				Sweet.    | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		Luke451
 
 
  Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Southern Northern California
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:46 pm    Post subject:  | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				 	  | keith wrote: | 	 		  Wow.    
 
 
But, I sort of don't buy it.
 
 
Keith | 	  
 
 
Works for me. Maybe the last two nodes could be joined, though:
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		   *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
 
 | 49     5      3      | 2      89     1      | 489    7      6      |
 
 | 6      1      289    | 7      389    4      | 2389   238    5      |
 
 | 249    478    24789  | 358    6      59     | 23489  2348   1      |
 
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 
 | 35     9      68     | 358    4      567    | 3578   1      2      |
 
 | 345    348    1      | 9      3578   2      | 6      348    347    |
 
 | 7      2      468    | 358    1      56     | 3458   9      34     |
 
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 
 | 8      347    4579   | 1      2      579    | 347    6      3479   |
 
 | 1      47     59     | 6      59     3      | 247    24     8      |
 
 | 239    6      279    | 4      79     8      | 1      5      379    |
 
 *--------------------------------------------------------------------* | 	  
 
(68=4)als:r46c3 - (4=3)r6c9 - r79c9 = r7c7 - (3=478)als:r378c2 | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		daj95376
 
 
  Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 3854
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:20 pm    Post subject:  | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				 	  | Luke451 wrote: | 	 		  Works for me. Maybe the last two nodes could be joined,
 
 
(68=4)als:r46c3 - (4=3)r6c9 - r79c9 = r7c7 - (3=478)als:r378c2
 
 | 	  
 
The als notation often leaves me searching for which values are "active" and which values are "passive". (Similar to which cells are true and which cells are false as you read left-to-right and right-to-left in an AIC containing an Empty Rectangle with an ERI cell.)
 
 
I would be tempted to cut out the passive values in this chain and compact it to:
 
 
(8=4)r46c3 - (4=3)r6c9 - r79c9 = r7c7 - (3=8)r378c2
 
 
But then I'd get into trouble from all directions. _  
 
 
An alternate chain with compact passive values:
 
 
(4=3)r45c1 - r9c1 = r9c9 - (3=4)r6c9 => r6c3<>4 | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		Luke451
 
 
  Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Southern Northern California
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:32 pm    Post subject:  | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				I like it, Danny. storm norm and others have made the same suggestion.
 
 
ALS notation seems to fall into two categories. It seems to me each asks something of the reader.
 
 
The way I used presents all components of the ALS and leaves it to the reader to discern the operative values.
 
 
The way you suggest presents the operative values and leaves it to the reader to discern the ALS components. | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		 |