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		nataraj
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: LA Times (Free Press?) Fri Mar 26 | 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I was just about to post it.  I am stuck at the same spot.
 
 
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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The W-Wing and fined X-Wing appear to be extraneous.
 
 
It appears to need a chain or an ALS, but they only get you past the bottleneck.
 
 
 	  | chain hint wrote: | 	 		  Connect strong links on: 2, 9, 1
 
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		nataraj
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | daj95376 wrote: | 	 		  The W-Wing and fined X-Wing appear to be extraneous.
 
 
It appears to need a chain or an ALS, but they only get you past the bottleneck.
 
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I finally settled for a three candidate AIC:
 
(5=8)r5c1-(8=2)r6c3-(2)r5c2=(2)r5c8; r5c8<>5
 
 
As Danny said, this gets you past the bottleneck.
 
There is an xy-wing 18-12-28 later, and another one (54-48-85) near the end
 
 
I am not happy with those multi-candidate AICs.
 
Although I have a method to find three-candidate AICs by hand, it is a tedious process, not very satisfying   | 
			 
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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The w-wing sets this up: 	  | Code: | 	 		   *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
 
 | 578    2569   2789   | 238    358    2389   | 36     1      4      |
 
 | 3      459    19     | 6      145    149    | 8      7      2      |
 
 | 48     246    128    | 7      1348   12348  | 36     9      5      |
 
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 
 | 1      359    389    | 348    2      7      | 459    6      89     |
 
 | 58     2359   4      | 138    6      138    | 7      258    189    |
 
 | 6      7      28     | 5      9      148    | 124    24     3      |
 
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 
 | 2      8      5      | 1349   1347   6      | 149    34     179    |
 
 | 47     34     37     | 1289   18     5      | 129    28     6      |
 
 | 9      1      6      | 2348   3478   2348   | 245    23458  78     |
 
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  (4)r4c4=(4-5)r4c7=r4c2-(5=2)[ALS:r5c1,r6c3]-(2=4)r6c8; r4c7,r6c6<>4
 
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Neat step but doesn't get you very far.  
 
 
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 | 578    2569   2789   | 238    358    2389   | 36     1      4      |
 
 | 3      459    19     | 6      145    149    | 8      7      2      |
 
 | 48     246    128    | 7      1348   12348  | 36     9      5      |
 
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 | 1      359    389    | 4      2      7      | 59     6      89     |
 
 |a58     59-2   4      |a138    6     a138    | 7     a258    189    |
 
 | 6      7     b28     | 5      9     b18     | 14-2   4-2    3      |
 
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 | 2      8      5      | 139    1347   6      | 149    34     179    |
 
 | 47     34     37     | 1289   18     5      | 129    28     6      |
 
 | 9      1      6      | 238    3478   2348   | 245    23458  78     |
 
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ALS
 
a = 12358
 
b=128
 
x=1 b5
 
z=2
 
 
later you will need an xy-wing 458 to finish it up  | 	  
 
 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				There are a couple of short chains that then need an XY-wing and a UR to solve it.
 
 
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