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keith



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject: Another Menneske Reply with quote
About a VH+
Code:
Puzzle: M6652385sh(15)
+-------+-------+-------+
| . 2 . | . . . | . . . |
| 4 . . | 8 . . | 5 . . |
| . . 7 | 1 . . | . . 9 |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . 9 . | . 4 . | . 2 . |
| 5 . . | . . . | . 9 6 |
| 7 . . | 3 . 8 | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . 1 | 7 . . | . . 3 |
| . . . | . . 6 | . . . |
| . 3 . | . 2 . | 8 . 7 |
+-------+-------+-------+
Keith
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I used more moves than needed, but had fun with them.

Quote:
M-Wing (49) takes out the 9 from r1c1

UR 29 roof cells have a 68 pseudo cell which works with two other cells to form a triple

M-Wing (38)

Hidden UR (38), used twice

XYZ-Wing (458)

XY-Wing (495)
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nataraj



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Marty R. wrote:
M-Wing (49) takes out the 9 from r1c1


Please help. I cannot find that m-wing and - after basics and the UR 29 (type 4 - strong link "2" in column 1 says r78c1<>9):
Code:

+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 389     2       589      | 49      57      349      | 6       378     1        |
| 4       1       69       | 8       67      39       | 5       37      2        |
| 368     58      7        | 1       56      2        | 4       38      9        |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 1       9       3        | 6       4       5        | 7       2       8        |
| 5       48      48       | 2       1       7        | 3       9       6        |
| 7       6       2        | 3       9       8        | 1       45      45       |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 26      45      1        | 7       8       49       | 29      456     3        |
| 28      7       4589     | 459     3       6        | 29      1       45       |
| 69      3       4569     | 459     2       1        | 8       456     7        |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+


best I can do is use the UR 38 in r13c18 to remove 8 from r3c1, but that does not get me very far...

Of course, there is an xy-chain from r2c6 to r3c8 (39 49 45 58 38), but I was hoping for a solution without chains.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quote:
Please help. I cannot find that m-wing and - after basics and the UR 29 (type 4 - strong link "2" in column 1 says r78c1<>9):

I hadn't played the UR so I had a 9 in r7c1 and made a mistake by extending the 9 from r7c6 to r7c1, oblivious to the 3rd 9 in r7.

Sorry.
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nataraj



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, Marty!

I noticed a small handful of more or less flightless wings. Would have been great to see one of them take off...
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Code:
+--------------------+----------------+---------------+
| 39(8)  2     (589) | 4-9  57  34(9) | 6     378  1  |
| 4      1     69    | 8    67  3(9)  | 5     37   2  |
| 36(8)  (58)  7     | 1    56  2     | 4     38   9  |
+--------------------+----------------+---------------+
| 1      9     3     | 6    4   5     | 7     2    8  |
| 5      48    48    | 2    1   7     | 3     9    6  |
| 7      6     2     | 3    9   8     | 1     45   45 |
+--------------------+----------------+---------------+
| 269    45    1     | 7    8   4(9)  | (29)  456  3  |
| 9(28)  7     4589  | 459  3   6     | 9(2)  1    45 |
| 69     3     4569  | 459  2   1     | 8     456  7  |
+--------------------+----------------+---------------+

als[(9)r1c3 = (8)r13c23] - (8)r13c1 = (8-2)r8c1 = (2)r8c7 - (2=9)r7c7 - (9)r7c6 = (9)r12c6; r1c4 <> 9
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Mogulmeister



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Also a nice xy: pincers at r2c3 and r7c6 taking out 9 at r2c6.
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
storm_norm wrote:
Code:
+--------------------+----------------+---------------+
| 39(8)  2     (589) | 4-9  57  34(9) | 6     378  1  |
| 4      1     69    | 8    67  3(9)  | 5     37   2  |
| 36(8)  (58)  7     | 1    56  2     | 4     38   9  |
+--------------------+----------------+---------------+
| 1      9     3     | 6    4   5     | 7     2    8  |
| 5      48    48    | 2    1   7     | 3     9    6  |
| 7      6     2     | 3    9   8     | 1     45   45 |
+--------------------+----------------+---------------+
| 269    45    1     | 7    8   4(9)  | (29)  456  3  |
| 9(28)  7     4589  | 459  3   6     | 9(2)  1    45 |
| 69     3     4569  | 459  2   1     | 8     456  7  |
+--------------------+----------------+---------------+

als[(9)r1c3 = (8)r13c23] - (8)r13c1 = (8-2)r8c1 = (2)r8c7 - (2=9)r7c7 - (9)r7c6 = (9)r12c6; r1c4 <> 9


Norm, that is a beautiful ALS Exclamation

It is also nice that it is a one step solution but it is a great move in any case.

Ted
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