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		| ravel 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:36 pm    Post subject: Strange pattern |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +-------+-------+-------+ | . . . | . . . | . . . |
 | . . 1 | 2 4 8 | 5 . . |
 | . 7 . | . . . | . 4 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 2 . | . . 6 | . 9 . |
 | . 4 . | . 2 . | . 7 . |
 | . 8 . | . 7 . | . 1 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 6 . | . . . | . 3 . |
 | . . 7 | 5 1 9 | 6 . . |
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 +-------+-------+-------+ m_b_metcalf
 
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 Not hard to solve, though its too hard for the online solver ...
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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:10 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| the online solver doesn't seem to recognize xy-chains... |  | 
	
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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ... (like for example the generalized xy-wing 34-(36-26)-24 "pivot" row 3, but there are many others)
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 | 48      5       46       | 367     9       137      | 18      2       13       |
 | 3       9       1        | 2       4       8        | 5       6       7        |
 | 28      7       26       | 36      5       13       | 189     4       139      |
 +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 | 7       2       5        | 1       3       6        | 4       9       8        |
 | 1       4       9        | 8       2       5        | 3       7       6        |
 | 6       8       3        | 9       7       4        | 2       1       5        |
 +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 | 5       6       24       | 47      8       27       | 19      3       19       |
 | 24      3       7        | 5       1       9        | 6       8       24       |
 | 9       1       8        | 34      6       23       | 7       5       24       |
 +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 
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 BTW, I did try the UR 19 r37c79, removes 1 from r3c79 and sets r3c6=1 but that did not get me very far
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | nataraj wrote: |  	  | ... BTW, I did try the UR 19 r37c79, removes 1 from r3c79 and sets r3c6=1 but that did not get me very far
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 Why not?  It leaves a BUG+1.
 
 Keith
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		| storm_norm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | keith wrote: |  	  |  	  | nataraj wrote: |  	  | ... BTW, I did try the UR 19 r37c79, removes 1 from r3c79 and sets r3c6=1 but that did not get me very far
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 Why not?  It leaves a BUG+1.
 
 Keith
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 definitely easier than looking for the chains, imo.
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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| keith, Norm, 
 you are absolutely right, of course. I was so busy looking for xy-wings that I did not see the BUG+1
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