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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: An old Nightmare |   |  
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				| Things are too quiet! 
 I was looking in the archives, and found this one from a couple of years ago.  Enjoy!
 
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| W-Wing 
 Simple coloring (not sure if needed)
 
 W-Wing which couldn't make a direct elimination, but coloring one pincer twice broke it open.
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		| Asellus 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| For me: 
 [1] Skyscraper on <9> in c24
 [2] Kite, pivot b5, removes <6> from r1c7
 [3] "Useless" XYZ Wing in r2c89|r4c9:  r1c7 sees <2>s in r2c89 directly and sees <2> in r4c9 via ERs in boxes 2, 5, 4, 7 and 9.  (Or, you can consider r4c9 transported to r8c7.)
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The "basics" in this one are pretty tough. 
 I believe you can solve it with only a W-wing and an X-wing.
 
 But, there are many ways through this maze.  As I recall, I originally did it with a W-, XY, and W- wing.
 
 Keith
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:49 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | The "basics" in this one are pretty tough. | 
 It seems that during the initial scan of rows and columns, not much got eliminated. But the scan of boxes revealed a 269 triple in box 5, and that's what got things going.
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I solved the puzzle without using any w-wings but it took six steps: two colorings, a finned x, a swordfish and two xy-wings. Fun but long. 
 Ted
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