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		| arkietech 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:35 am    Post subject: au tough 5/22/12 |   |  
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 |.7.|.2.|..5|
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		| SudoQ 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:57 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Nice puzzle! 
 /SudoQ 	  | Code: |  	  | r1c3=7 ->          -> r1c9=7 -> r5c7/8=7 -> r5c3<>7
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		| arkietech 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: |   |  
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 | 1      9      4-7    | 268    68     268    | 3      5     *47     |
 | 6      234    245    | 139    7      135    | 24     8      19     |
 | 57     238    2578   | 4      139    135    | 27     6      19     |
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 | 79     6      1      | 2789   489    2478   | 5      3     *247    |
 | 3      24    *247    | 16     5      16     |*479   *479    8      |
 | 579    48     4578   | 2379   349    2347   | 6      1     *247    |
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 | 2      1      3      | 5      48     9      | 478    47     6      |
 | 48     7      6      | 138    2      1348   | 1489   49     5      |
 | 48     5      9      | 1678   1468   14678  | 148    2      3      |
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 Box kite??
 (7)r1c9=r46c9-r5c78=(7)r5c3 => r1c3<>7; lclste
 
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		| SudoQ 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | arkietech wrote: |  	  | Box kite?? | 
 I have seen the name "Empty Rectangle".
 This can eliminated 4 or 7 from cell r5c3.
 But with your solution the puzzle is completed easier!
 
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| "7s" were the key to solving this puzzle in a standard manner. After doing so, I looked for some fun, long solutions. Here are two that use some of the same logic as already posted...... 
 axy-wing(57-2)r3c1+r2c3/r3c7=(4)r2c3-(4=7)r1c3-(7=5)r3c1-(5=79)r64c1-(7=24)r5c32-(4)r5c78=r46c9-(4=7)r1c9-(7=2)r3c7; r2c7,r3c23<>2
 
 almost SdC(24578)r123c3
 ab=(24)r5c3
 cd(57)r3c1
 e=(8)r3c3
 fin (7)r5c3
 almost SdC(24578)r123c3=(7)r5c3-r5c78=r46c9-r1c9=r1c3 => conflict; r5c3<>7
 Thus SdC is true; r6c3<>4, r3c2,r6c3<>8
 
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		| arkietech 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | tlanglet wrote: |  	  | axy-wing(57-2)r3c1+r2c3/r3c7=(4)r2c3-(4=7)r1c3-(7=5)r3c1-(5=79)r64c1-(7=24)r5c32-(4)r5c78=r46c9-(4=7)r1c9-(7=2)r3c7; r2c7,r3c23<>2 
 almost SdC(24578)r123c3
 ab=(24)r5c3
 cd(57)r3c1
 e=(8)r3c3
 fin (7)r5c3
 almost SdC(24578)r123c3=(7)r5c3-r5c78=r46c9-r1c9=r1c3 => conflict; r5c3<>7
 Thus SdC is true; r6c3<>4, r3c2,r6c3<>8
 
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | arkietech wrote: |  	  |  	  | Code: |  	  | *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
 | 1      9      4-7    | 268    68     268    | 3      5     *47     |
 | 6      234    245    | 139    7      135    | 24     8      19     |
 | 57     238    2578   | 4      139    135    | 27     6      19     |
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 | 79     6      1      | 2789   489    2478   | 5      3     *247    |
 | 3      24    *247    | 16     5      16     |*479   *479    8      |
 | 579    48     4578   | 2379   349    2347   | 6      1     *247    |
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 | 2      1      3      | 5      48     9      | 478    47     6      |
 | 48     7      6      | 138    2      1348   | 1489   49     5      |
 | 48     5      9      | 1678   1468   14678  | 148    2      3      |
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 Box kite??
 (7)r1c9=r46c9-r5c78=(7)r5c3 => r1c3<>7; lclste
 
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 I've never heard of a Box Kite, but the Sashimi X-Wing in r15 sets r46c9<>7.
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		| arkietech 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | I've never heard of a Box Kite | 
 I haven't either but that is what it is-- box 6 with two strings.
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | arkietech wrote: |  	  |  	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | I've never heard of a Box Kite | 
 I haven't either but that is what it is-- box 6 with two strings.
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 Just for the sake of discussion, what's the difference between a Kite and Box Kite since all Kites emanate from a box? Box Kite seems to be a redundancy. Maybe a more appropriate name would be Grouped Kite. But whatever it's called, it's very nice and not something I would've spotted.
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		| arkietech 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | Just for the sake of discussion, what's the difference between a Kite and Box Kite since all Kites emanate from a box? Box Kite seems to be a redundancy. Maybe a more appropriate name would be Grouped Kite. But whatever it's called, it's very nice and not something I would've spotted. | 
 I don't know -- it just came to me, I remember fllying box kites as a kid. Don't see them anymore. Call it a boy remembering== nothing more.
 
 It is a grouped discontinous loop to many.
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