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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Vanhegan extremee |   |  
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				| Puzzle #6-625083, rated 2.2.0.1.1. 
 Played five not-very-helpful moves and am hopelessly stuck. Can't even Medusa my way out of it.
 
 
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 | 5   1   28   | 6   7    38   | 4    9   23   |
 | 6   3   789  | 4   2    589  | 178  158 157  |
 | 279 789 4    | 1   59   3589 | 367  568 257  |
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 | 8   59  359  | 2   1569 7    | 1369 4   159  |
 | 139 4   6    | 8   159  59   | 2    7   1359 |
 | 179 2   579  | 3   1569 4    | 169  156 8    |
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 | 23  78  23   | 79  4    6    | 5    18  179  |
 | 4   579 1    | 579 8    2    | 79   3   6    |
 | 79  6   5789 | 579 3    1    | 789  2   4    |
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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Marty, 
 You have a wildcat by its tail in this one!!!
 
 My solver didn't find anyplace pretty to go from here.
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:22 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If I had made some mechanical error and this grid was not valid, would your solver have noted that? |  | 
	
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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:01 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | If I had made some mechanical error and this grid was not valid, would your solver have noted that? | 
 Yes. It found a solution, but it's far from "fun".
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:41 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks. I won't waste any further time on it. Funny how one like this is impossible and others with similar ratings are one- or two-steppers. |  | 
	
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		| JC Van Hay 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The simplest I can see in this puzzle ... 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +-----------------------+--------------------+---------------------+ | 5     1       28      | 6       7     38   | 4        9    23    |
 | 6     3       89(7)   | 4       2     589  | 8(17)    158  15(7) |
 | 279   789     4       | 1       59    3589 | 367      568  257   |
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 | 8     (59)    (59)+3  | 2       1569  7    | 693(1)   4    (159) |
 | 19-3  4       6       | 8       159   59   | 2        7    1359  |
 | 179   2       (579)   | 3       1569  4    | 69(1)    156  8     |
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 | 23    (78)    2-3     | (79)    4     6    | 5        18   (179) |
 | 4     59+7    1       | 59+7    8     2    | (79)     3    6     |
 | 79    6       59+78   | 59+7    3     1    | 789      2    4     |
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 #1. r7c3=3 => NP(59)r4c23 => r6c3=7 AND r4c9=1, r2c7=1 => r2c9=7, r7c9=9 ....
 ... => r7c4=7, r7c2=8 AND r8c7=7 => DP(59)r4c23.r8c2.r9c3.r89c4 => -3r7c3
 
 #2. Skyscraper(7C27) :=> -7r2c3.r3c9
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