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		| rmireland 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:14 pm    Post subject: Oct 15 H vs VH |   |  
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				| I know many of you boys can’t wait for the next VH, but that’s not me. 
 I've just finished with today’s H, and I have to say I still love a good H one.  Sure the VH are stimulating and fun, if you just want a quickie climaxing in an XY.  That’s a good mental release.
 
 But for me, I like the long, slow intimacy I get with an H.  I like to start with digit one, and slowly work my way up.  After I play four, I'm already too far in to stop - I have to finish.  And pairs, I just love them all.  Hidden ones are exciting but there’s nothing gets me going faster than seeing naked pairs.  I never get tired of that.  Locked candidates?  I'm your man!
 
 My wife feels the same way.  She really doesn’t like VH that much at all, but if we have a nice H, she’s happy to play with me, as long as we solve it within 4 hours.
 
 We love this site.  We pray for the H's to keep coming for a long time.
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:57 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| rm, 
 If you'd like to get a Hard on every day
  try Helmut's site: 
 http://www.saueregger.at/sudoku/
 
 Use the arrows on the left and right to scroll through the day's puzzles.  Click on the puzzle to print it or to send it to Draw/Play.
 
 I think that Helmut's puzzles are more interesting in the way you describe.  They are not the one-trick ponies that this site's VH usually are.
 
 Keith
 
 PS: I won't make the remark about naked triples.
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		| dongrave 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:30 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| You enjoyed today's H?  Holy crow!  What was 'hard' about that?  I didn't see anything that I would consider hard.  It wasn't that obvious triple that made it qualify as a hard, was it?  (ugh.)  Give me a VH any day! |  |  
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:11 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | If you'd like to get a Hard on every day try Helmut's site: | 
 
 Keith, maybe he could try V-agra rather than Helmut's site.
   
 (Sam's filter doesn't like the full name of that medication)
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:27 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| don, 
 I enjoyed the puzzle, which I did without pencil marks, as is my wont. I did not see a triple.  The key seemed to be placing 9 in B9.
 
 To each his own. What do you care that others like different puzzles than you do?
 
 Keith
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		| dongrave 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:52 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | keith wrote: |  	  | don, 
 I enjoyed the puzzle, which I did without pencil marks, as is my wont. I did not see a triple.  The key seemed to be placing 9 in B9.
 
 To each his own. What do you care that others like different puzzles than you do?
 
 Keith
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 Oh!  That's right!  The H didn't even have a triple, did it?  I confused the H that day with a VH that I did from the archive (because I finished the H with so much time still on my lunch hour).  I do that all the time.  I don't really care what others enjoy Keith!  Ireland was expressing his opinion (and saying how he didn't like VHs) so I thought I'd express mine!  Don.
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		| Pat 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:58 pm    Post subject: re: Daily SuDoku — 2015.Oct.15 — Hard |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +-------+-------+-------+ | . . 3 | . 4 . | . 6 8 |
 | . . 4 | 5 . 7 | . . . |
 | 7 . . | . . . | . 2 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . . . | . 1 . | 2 . 9 |
 | . . . | 2 . 3 | . . . |
 | 8 . 2 | . 7 . | . . . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 3 . | . . . | . . 2 |
 | . . . | 3 . 8 | 4 . . |
 | 1 4 . | . 5 . | 8 . . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 
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 after some "hidden singles", 	  | keith wrote: |  	  | I enjoyed the puzzle, which I did without pencil marks, as is my wont. The key seemed to be placing 9 in B9.
 
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 it takes just 1 move:
 
 b8 "hidden" duo {1,4}
the latter may be considered a Locked Pair?==> b8 7
 
 OR: b8 "naked" duo ={6,9}
 solves r9c4
 (sorry, not sure about the terminology)
  	  | Code: |  	  | +-------+-------+-------+ | . . 3 | . 4 . | 7 6 8 |
 | 6 8 4 | 5 2 7 | . . . |
 | 7 . . | 8 3 6 | 5 2 4 |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | 3 . . | . 1 . | 2 8 9 |
 | 4 . . | 2 8 3 | . . . |
 | 8 . 2 | . 7 . | . . . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 3 8 | . . . | . . 2 |
 | . . . | 3 . 8 | 4 . . |
 | 1 4 . | . 5 2 | 8 . . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 
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