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Asellus
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 865 Location: Sonoma County, CA, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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jLo,
I am quite sure that the <4> in the lower left must be red IF the <7> in @ is red based only on the cells shown since the lower right cell must be <2>. It is the same logic as an XY-Chain.
I believe I have erred however in saying that all the red values can be eliminated. It is only certain that the <7> in @ can be eliminated since the implications vanish if @ is <1>. (That brings those other cells in the grid into play.)
As it happens, none of the red values in this case are in the final solution, so my error was a "lucky" one.
There is Sue de Coq-like structure in the region involved in those XY-Chains and George's comment. However, I couldn't work it out in any way that made sense to me. It did lead me to seeing that implication that I posted, however. As you may know, Sue de Coq often involves solutions based on avoiding the elimination of both candidates of a bivalue cell. |
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Steve R
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 289 Location: Birmingham, England
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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George,
It is an ALS chain:
-7- r3c9 -6- r9c9 -2- {r8c3, r9c3} -7-
which eliminates 7 from any common associate of r3c9, r8c3 and r9c3.
As Asellus pointed out, these chains have exactly the same logic as XY-chains. The only difference is that, in the XY case, the nodes are single cells with two candidates while, in the general case, the nodes may be two cells sharing three candidates, three cells sharing four candidates and so on.
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Glassman
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 50 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: |
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I'm completely stuck on this — I haven't even got as far as Captain Pete. How did he do the eliminations in c7?
This is my feeble effort. Enlightenment please!
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+--------------+------------+--------------+
| 17 3 9 | 6 5 2 | 17 8 4 |
| 6 8 5 | 1 4 7 | 29 29 3 |
| 4 2 17 | 3 8 9 | 167 5 67 |
+--------------+------------+--------------+
| 279 4 3 | 5 29 8 | 2679 269 1 |
| 1279 179 6 | 479 3 14 | 8 249 5 |
| 5 179 8 | 479 129 6 | 2479 3 27 |
+--------------+------------+--------------+
| 19 5 124 | 49 6 3 | 24 7 8 |
| 8 67 47 | 2 17 5 | 3 146 9 |
| 3 679 247 | 8 179 14 | 5 1246 26 |
+--------------+------------+--------------+
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
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TKiel
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 292 Location: Kalamazoo, MI
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: |
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X-wing, followed by naked triple. |
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Glassman
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 50 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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Tracy — Thanks, I've found it.
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